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Ross B
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gotta learn to ignore them feelings....
get a coach, he'll tell you when your sucking and when your not
get a coach, he'll tell you when your sucking and when your not
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My whole dilema is that I dont want to develop bad habits because what I am doing "feels" like its correct.
You did something right or they did something wrong- it can be something other than speed. In fact you might have been going slower than the boat you have passed and, unless you know what it is you or they have done any lesson is worthless. And "knowing" might not be possible as you do not know what conditions the other boat was sailing in (wind strength, wind direction, tide, foul wind from other boats/fleets, etc.) and what the other guy was doing (e.g. having a drink, food, phone call, etc.)
This is a reason why concentration on "speed" is missing a lot of the point. I wonder if some here are still learning sailing and yet have to appreciate what is involved in racing. I wonder if some might benefit a lot from sailing two handed boats match racing. Can teach you a lot about what is needed to win - and it's not always speed.
Ian
Tactics arent everything, without speed tactics wont win the race. Lets see; if you have great tactics, experience and "feel" you should dominate the fleet while sailing a radial. The guy sailing a full size rig with average skill should fair rather well against the radial guys with exeptional abilities just because of his superior speed. Or am I totally off in my reasoning?
The guy sailing a full size rig with average skill should fair rather well against the radial guys with exeptional abilities just because of his superior speed. Or am I totally off in my reasoning?
My point is that speed obviously isnt the only thing that wins the race, and neither is tactics. But I am asserting that speed is probably the most important part of the equation.
tactics and strategy are the same bloody thing!
My discomfort lies in the fact that when I fly ( flying and sailing have a lot in common ) I am aware that your feelings can lie to you.
Tactics arent everything, without speed tactics wont win the race. Lets see; if you have great tactics, experience and "feel" you should dominate the fleet while sailing a radial. The guy sailing a full size rig with average skill should fair rather well against the radial guys with exeptional abilities just because of his superior speed. Or am I totally off in my reasoning?
sorry I don't think I understand what you mean. These animations, and my explaination, really only apply upwind, when you've got your sail all the way in or almost, depending on what type of wind it is (in light air you will want a looser vang and the sheet out a foot to create a deeper sail shape, while in moderate to heavy wind you want it 'block to block.' Stop me please if you don't understand any of this. Upwind, the aim is to get the telltales to fly all of the time. On a reach it's a little bit different and downwind it's even more different. I'll talk about telltales concerning those next unless you have any more questions.... really I'm no pro, you should buy a laser sailing book or some dvd's to get started.Okay in the situation where you use the tales; there is a range where the flow accross the sail is smooth, maybe an inch or a foot of sheet. Which direction do you want to go, towards the high or windward side?
If the leeward tail is stable(ish), and the windward tail flicks around, you bear away or sheet in.
If the windward tail is stable(ish) and the leeward tail flicks around you come up or sheet out.
What happens in real life, at speed, is that you come up momentarily to get the leeward tail stable, perhaps trimming in the sheet, then as the power comes on you can return to your course, perhaps easing the sheet and bearing away.
How much you come up or bear away may be a lot (rudder use) or very little (kinetics body weight use).
If you want to get all technical, this works because of 'apparent wind.' The faster you go, the higher you can point to the wind ultimately making you travel less distance...
Ian,
I think it is actually the other way around. US Sailing has some good diagrams of this.
http://www.sailingusa.info/true_wind_calculator.htm
Matt