LaLi
Well-Known Member
Andy, isn’t that the autoratchet version (Harken 2627)? No on/off switch visible.
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The one in the pic isn't a 2138 as LaLi mentioned above. The 2615 and 2627 look like that except the 2627 is an auto ratchet block. Is it the 2627 that you and Andy are using? Is that better than the regular ratchet block (2138)?Here's the one Andy and I put on my boat. I really like this integrated block and cleat. Hope to sail soon Andy!
I started to call mine the 2138 because Lali kept referring to it that way. But yes, mine is in fact the 2627. Under low loads, the block free spools in both directions but when you load it up more, the ratchet kicks in. I believe Norcalsail also has the 2627 because I gave him one of mine to try.The one in the pic isn't a 2138 as LaLi mentioned above. The 2615 and 2627 look like that except the 2627 is an auto ratchet block. Is it the 2627 that you and Andy are using? Is that better than the regular ratchet block (2138)?
Hey, that was the day of your first Duncan's Mills bridge out and return! Oh, man... I want to do that again with you!! What a fun trip that was.Here's the one Andy and I put on my boat. I really like this integrated block and cleat. Hope to sail soon Andy!
Yes.the block wheel freely turns in either direction. Is this normal.
Yes.If there's a load on it, will it work like a regular ratchet block?
Probably not. However, one is tempted to think that on a Sunfish a lower engagement load would work better as the sheet makes a relatively shallow turn at the block. But as with everything else, it has to be tested. Personal preferences also vary.necessary to change the load adjustment on the block?
Actually, the reason I added a second spring was so that when I would apply downward force on the main sheet to cleat it in the cam cleat, the block would dip downward and towards the cockpit and not always cleat. Adding a second spring made the force holding the block upright "stiffer".Finally, it is a lot heavier with the cam and I assume that's why you added the additional larger spring.
Yes, I would add the second spring before trying it out. Might as well.Should I do this before trying it out?
On either both Greg's and Phil's Sunfish or at least on one them we were able to keep the spring pulled towards the cockpit without drilling any new holes. Way back when I was first tinkering with my new block, I thought I would have to drill holes in the deck to keep the spring not only pulled towards the cockpit but down towards the deck as well. But it turned out that I didn't need to drill holes there. Line looping around the cockpit side of the spring then over the 90 edge and into the cockpit was enough to keep that spring where it needed to be.I'm not sure if I can find a way to keep large spring pulled toward the cockpit without drilling some mount. I guess I'll try first and see how it works. I wanted to avoid drilling any new mounting holes.
Did you ever adjust the ratchet tension?
Your block looks very nice. I'm glad to hear you've got the eye strap option to tie to. No new holes in that pristine deck of yours!I mounted the block in my shop today. If a secure tie is needed, it can be tied to eye strap below forward hiking strap attachment.
Like the sea noodle pad!!!My first upgrade on my '71 ("Ruby") was to add the above swiveling cam cleat that you show above.
A year later I replaced it with a 57mm ratchet block.
Like you, I found there were times I wanted to cleat. I tested a ratchet block with an adjustable cam cleat (similar to the Harken 2138 you mentioned in your earlier post) and found there were times when tacking that the cleat would engage unexpectedly resulting in a capsize or near capsize.
So when I replaced Ruby with a '77 (Sevens), I settled on the 57mm ratchet block (mounted on the hockey puck stand) with 2 deck mounted clam cleats with risers. The clam cleats don't accidentally cleat but still give me a place to cleat off the mainsheet when the wind is not too crazy and I want to take it easy or have a free hand to adjust the outhaul or cunningham. View attachment 54116
Similarly, my '76 Super Sunfish is rigged with deck cleats for the traveller, but when I rig it with a standard Sunfish lateen sail, I use those deck cleats. That's what's in this picture:
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... a lot of words and pictures for me to just end up agreeing with LaLi's recommendation #3.